Talk:Causes of World War II

Britain's strategy of turning Germany eastwards to destroy USSR

Hey, I want to add in the view that Chamberlain's strategy was to turn Germany eastwards to destroy USSR. That view seems to be missing here.

...And by this date, certain members of the Milner Group and of the British Conservative government had reached the fantastic idea that they could kill two birds with one stone by setting Germany and Russia against one another in Eastern Europe.

In this way they felt that the two enemies would stalemate one another, or that Germany would become satisfied with the oil of Rumania and the wheat of the Ukraine.

It never occurred to anyone in a responsible position that Germany and Russia might make common cause, even temporarily, against the West. Even less did it occur to them that Russia might beat Germany and thus open all Central Europe to Bolshevism.

This idea of bringing Germany into a collision with Russia was not to be found, so far as the evidence shows, among any members of the inner circle of the Milner Group.

Rather it was to be found among the personal associates of Neville Chamberlain, including several members of the second circle of the Milner Group. The two policies followed parallel courses until March 1939. After that date the Milner Group’s disintegration became very evident, and part of it took the form of the movement of several persons (like Hoare and Simon) from the second circle of the Milner Group to the inner circle of the new group rotating around Chamberlain...''

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Addition of Communism

Alright, I feel that the page does a pretty decent job by and large of covering the topic, but out of everything the absence of Communism seems pretty damn major. The Soviet Union was one of the major driving forces behind the leadup to WWII and a lot of the causes can be traced back to its' probing around looking to expand. The alliance between it and the Weimar era Reichswehr under von Seeckt is absolutely massive in and of itself because without it you really don't have a history of German re-armament. Without the attempts to move out of the old Tsardom in the 1910's and early 20's we wouldn't have Eastern European history looking even remotely like it does, particularly vis-a-vis Finland, Poland, the Baltics, et cetera.

Really, the article does a good job covering the rise of Fascism and its' cousins, but it takes two to tango and the omission of the Soviet governments' role in fanning the flames is at best a stain on this fine page. 75.36.164.227 (talk) 20:35, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

aldo was a main part of WW2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.43.223.80 (talk) 16:47, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Is this supposed to be a joke? USSR was attempting to build a common European security system since the end of it's civil war (being at war for a while, with everyone invading you does that to people) and the old Allied powers were busy feeding Hitler territories and ignoring it breaking treaty rules. The Poles, later painted as innocent victims of aggression, invaded and occupied Western Ukraine, Belorussia (Polish Soviet War), parts of Lithuania, and annexed a bit of Czechoslovakia in tandem with Germans and Hungarians. They had a nonaggression pact with Hitler long before anyone else did, and refused French+Russian+Czechoslovak attempts to contain Germany together. Their plan was to attack East with Hitler. UK+France sent negotiators to Stalin with no permission to sign anything on paper, or discuss any joint military strategy in case of war. When it became clear they were just stalling for time to pressure Hitler, Stalin offered the Germans a nonaggression pact.

Just because USSR got dissolved doesn't mean you can blame it for everything without proof. AzzAzeL-US (talk) 20:30, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

I know this is a group project, but it's got some crazy ideas in it

What caused world war II? Germany's attack on other countries, not Britain and France's declaration of war. Economic problems caused hitler to fight? No, he was planning on this from the beginning. Nazi apologists don't belong on Wiki.173.65.3.69 (talk) 18:44, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Prior to Britain and France's war declarations, it was merely a localised war: The German Invasion of Poland, and not a European or World war yet. On the note of 'economic problems', I've never heard of Nazi-era Germany having economic problems until it was bombed by the RAF and USAF halfway through the war..

"Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view", so while its articles shouldn't promote Nazi apologism, it also shouldn't promote the opposite, including pointing some (truthful) blame onto France, the UK, USA (etc, etc). Zjohn4 (talk) 17:39, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Piłsudski regime in 1934

The phrase links a page about a period which starts in 1935. Please respect basic maths.Xx236 (talk) 07:56, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Poland participated in the dismemberment of Czechoslovakia by annexing Zaolzie. - the dismembering was decided in Munich by European superpowers, UK and France including. Poland didn't participate in Munich confrence. Czechoslovakia didn't want to fight for its freedom.

Czechoslovakia participated in failed dismembering of Poland 1919-1920. Hungary also participated in dismembering Czechoslovakia, not mentioned. There existed conflict between Hungary and Romania, which made both countries vulnerable. Treaty of Trianon Xx236 (talk) 08:02, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

The timeline of the subsection is wrong, it starts with After the final fate of Czechoslovakia and later goes to Zaolzie.Xx236 (talk) 08:06, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

The Soviet Union had lost territory to Poland in 1920. - the SU had lost Russian terrritory also to Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Romania.Xx236 (talk) 08:25, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Mass strikeout

What's with the mass strike out of the entire bottom 95% of this talk page? 83.250.66.213 (talk) 07:34, 24 June 2020 (UTC)