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Kaleb Tedla

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Non-notable biography with no non-mirror sources found. Has been unreferenced since its creation; previously was PROD'd but the original author was not notified so the PROD was removed. Kazamzam (talk) 22:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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T S Ayyappan

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Fails WP:NSINGER. Subject doesn't appear to be notable enough for a standalone article, and coverage from reliable sources is clearly lacking. CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Independent Municipal Party of Ljusnarsberg

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Sure, this ultra-local party will have some coverage in its local municipality of 4,407. But it's just no way that it is notable on a larger scale, so fails WP:NOTEVERYTHING. Geschichte (talk) 16:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. The nominator seems to be hinting at WP:AUD with the statement about coverage in its local municipality, which specifies that to pass WP:NORG a subject will need coverage beyond a local area. However, the article already has WP:SIGCOV present in its single source thus far in a national Swedish newspaper. The nominator has not described the results of a BEFORE search to indicate whether any other qualifying coverage exists. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Social thinking

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The majority of this article is promotional content written by someone who works at Teach Social: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pjc5316. See https://teachsocial.org/contact/ or https://x.com/socialthinking/status/1403139072218963970

The second main editor also does as stated by their page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Susanr714

The rest are mostly IPs

So obviously this article read more like an ad, and furthermore it is very POV (despite the "Social thinking" methodology being of the type of intervention that is VERY controversial). The relevance to Wikipedia is also questionable... I am adding appropriate templates and proposing a deletion in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 December 23. 149.154.210.208 (talk) 09:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Completing nomination on behalf of IP nominator--above text is copied from the article's talk page. I have no opinion of my own at this time. --Finngall ^talk 17:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak Keep/Draftify As per [1], some argue its a fringe pseudoscience theory that never gained traction. a response paper [2] argues its not. There is some literature about this article on Google Scholar that might indicate notability, but i'm counting only 2,500 journal articles for the search "social thinking" autism, which is not much. The current article is definitely insanely promotional and has large portions of unreferenced material that reads more like essay than anything else. However, the concept, though controversial, seems notable at least. If the article is kept, it will need significant work. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 19:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alpha Jax

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It has been 3 years, and not even one has been made, this is why we have wp:not, it fails this for many reasons. Slatersteven (talk) 17:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Alpha Motor Corporation as WP:TOOSOON. Merging (if any, as the target already mentions the subject) can be done from history. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to Alpha Motor Corporation. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:51, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alpha Saga

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It has been 4 years, and not even one has been made, this is why we have wp:not, it fails this for many reasons. Slatersteven (talk) 17:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Alpha Motor Corporation as WP:TOOSOON. Merging (if any, as the target already mentions the subject) can be done from history. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge: to the main Alpha Motors article, some coverage, but the vehicle was never produced, so likely not notable. Oaktree b (talk) 22:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zorch

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seems to fail gng by... a lot. according to a previous afd, they might be notable, but the complete lack of sources, inappropriate external links (why myspace?), and the fact that results have become an unusable mush of miscellaneous companies, cryptobro jargon, pizzerias, and chex quest jokes lead me to believe that a tnt is due, and there's only a chance that it will get recreated consarn _{(formerly cogsan)} 18:00, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Clearly fails all criteria on NMusician. No evidence of passing GNG either, I can't find any evidence of the existence of the band in major English or Ameican press.

Noah ^💬 23:19, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SmartSites

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Fails WP:NCORP. Sourced only to press releases and "fastest growing companies" type lists. ~ A412 ^talk! 18:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The subject has lots of media coverage — 102.91.93.46 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 06:24, 25 December 2024 (UTC) (UTC).[reply]
Keep: The SmartSites article meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organizations as it is a recognized and award-winning digital marketing agency with significant industry impact. The company has received multiple accolades, including rankings on the Inc. 5000 list for several consecutive years and recognition by Clutch.co as a leading agency in web design and digital marketing. These achievements have been covered by independent, reliable sources, demonstrating the company's influence and relevance in the digital marketing space.

Additionally, SmartSites has been featured in reputable publications such as Forbes, Entrepreneur, and Inc. magazines, which provide independent coverage beyond trivial mentions. This establishes the company’s notability under Wikipedia's general notability guidelines (GNG). The article provides verifiable, well-sourced information, contributing to the encyclopedia's goal of documenting notable organizations.

Deletion would remove a valuable resource for users seeking information on a player in the digital marketing industry. Instead, any concerns about content quality or neutrality can be addressed through constructive edits. Hussainxyz (talk) 18:04, 26 December 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Hussainxyz (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. [reply]

Delete, perhaps speedily as unambiguous WP:ADMASQ. This subject fails WP:NCORP. Virtually every source is a press release, and the few that aren't are WP:ORGTRIV. Being on the Inc. 5000 does not qualify a company as notable. Furthermore, I searched and there is no evidence for the page creator's assertion (or should I say ChatGPT's hallucination? GPTZero gives a 100% probability that the creator's !vote is WP:AIGENERATED) that there is independent coverage in Forbes or Entrepreneur. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kaissar Broadcasting Network

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Contested PROD. No evidence of notability, and no apparent need for a standalone article on this network. CycloneYoris ^talk! 18:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The network clearly failed WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. The article's content was derived from government documents obtained through FOI requests from the Philippine government, which could constitute a violation of WP:NOR. Additionally, the article lacks secondary sources. Although Kaissar was previously a member of the Kapisanan ng mga Brodkaster ng Pilipinas (KBP), it no longer holds that status. However, KBP membership alone does not establish notability. ^{I endorsed the article's PROD for the relatively same reason} AstrooKai (Talk) 07:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Subject does not appear to meet the WP:NCORP due to a lack of coverage Let'srun (talk) 17:27, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets WP:GNG. Sources in the page are reliable, with some in-depth enough IMV. 1 & 3 are about the company and its franchise. 2 is the company's profile. The former link is dead. So I replaced it with an archived one. The fact that it's no longer a KBP member is not my concern. 4 & 5 are proof that the list of stations are owned by the company. SBKSPP (talk) 02:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reference #1 is just the law that allowed Kaissar to be established, it doesn't demonstrate notability. Reference #2 shows the company's profile from KBP. It just demonstrates Wikipedia:Verifiability, not notability. Reference #3 just shows passing mention of Kaissar, it mainly talks about Villar's then-plan nationwide broadcasting network. Here's the part where Kaissar is only mentioned:

The same committee has, incidentally, not only just voted to renew the franchise of a little-known provincial radio TV network, Kaissar Broadcasting Network, but even expanded its coverage throughout the entire country as well.
— Victor C. Agustin, "ABS-CBn vacancy: Villar plans nationwide broadcasting network"

And I want to emphasize the fact that the news article mentioned that Kaissar was a "little-known provincial radio TV network", which just suggests that the network is relatively not notable. This news article was published in 2021, but no news coverage about the network followed since then. A search query in Google News would just return articles about Kaiser Broadcasting (an American company), and a refined Gsearch query will just return unreliable sources like blogs and network listings from radio blogs.

References #4 and #5 were taken from the Philippine government through an FOI request, which I think is a case of WP:OR and are WP:PRIMARY sources. You wouldn't ask for the document from the government itself it was already available from secondary sources, which is what needed to establish notability.

Overall, these references just proves verifiability of the content in the article, but they do not demonstrate the subject's notability at all. AstrooKai (Talk) 07:52, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still believe that the article meets WP:GNG based on my reasons stated. You can never change my mind. SBKSPP (talk) 08:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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National Library of Cameroon

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There is no "National Library of Cameroon". The current coordinates given are to the national museum. The national archives, which are the largest museum in the country, have their own seperate entry.-- NotCharizard ^🗨 15:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to National Archives of Cameroon which appears to be the case with the French article where Archives nationales du Cameroun talks about the volume it holds if I'm reading it correctly. Star Mississippi 03:14, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: What do you make of the first reference? The deletion discussion says there is no "National Library of Cameroon" but the source suggests there is.

On another note, the coordinates given (3.8611940644516403°N 11.516500695387736°E) are highly suspect. I'm not sure where those came from, but they have an astonishing 16 decimal digits of precision, which is sub-nanometer precision and nonsensical for a building. Crystalholm (talk) 16:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rizvan Huseynov

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The article fails to meet WP:GNG as it lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources and for a biographical article, it does not adhere to WP:BIO and failing WP:V. The article's tone seems like WP:PROMO. Nxcrypto Message 19:38, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kdan Mobile

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No properly reliable sources, seemingly written by someone affiliated. Found a profile on CommonWealth Magazine (Taiwan), but that is not enough for company notability. IgelRM (talk) 20:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Two WP:TECHCRUNCH sources (which do not count for notability) and one primary one. Fails both WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. Madeleine (talk) 22:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC) Keep per Cunard's source analysis below. Madeleine (talk) 16:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi Madeleine961 (talk · contribs). I found some additional sources below. Would you review? Thank you. Cunard (talk) 10:32, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Yes, I believe the sources you found demonstrates notability and significant coverage. I will change my !vote. Good work and cheers. Madeleine (talk) 16:24, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Thank you for reviewing the sources and reconsidering your position! Cunard (talk) 01:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Yan, Lou-you 顏漏有 (2022). 新創成長的關鍵：解開台灣新創企業從0到10億元的祕密 [The Key to Startup Growth: Unveiling the Secrets Behind Taiwanese Startups' Journey from $0 to $1 Billion] (in Chinese). Taipei: Business Weekly Publications 商周出版. ISBN 978-626-318-392-6. Retrieved 2024-12-29 – via Google Books.
  The book notes: "創業之初,正好抓住App發展初期,競爭者不多,當時蘋果應用程式商店 ( App Store)上的App總數還不到一千個,但凱鈿可以開發出上百個不同的 App,營收穩定成長,但沒多久,他們的發展、成長開始出現瓶頸。除了越來越多新進開發者及大公司投入App開發,加上免費App的選擇變多,競爭加劇, 若要吸引使用者,勢必要加大行銷投資。另一個本質上的問題在於,使用者是採取一次性付費買服務,但公司仍要持續提供維運,長久下去,不利於公司成長。"
  From Google Translate: "At the beginning of the business, Kdan caught the early stage of App development and there were not many competitors. At that time, the total number of Apps on the Apple App Store was less than a thousand, but Kdan could develop hundreds of different Apps, and the business Revenues grew steadily, but before long, bottlenecks began to appear in their development and growth. In addition to more and more new developers and large companies investing in App development, as well as the increasing number of free App choices and intensifying competition, it is necessary to increase marketing investment if you want to attract users. Another fundamental problem is that users pay a one-time fee for services, but the company still has to continue to provide maintenance and operation. In the long run, it is not conducive to the company's growth."
  The book notes: "然而,過去的模式主要靠著多樣化產品在支撐,精簡後,營收規模自然大受影響,公司營運陷入極大困境,幾位創辦人不得不向員工承認錯誤,抵押、賣地、信用卡借款,這些創業故事中常見的情節,也在凱鈿發生。"
  From Google Translate: "However, the past model was mainly supported by diversified products. After streamlining, the revenue scale was naturally greatly affected, and the company's operations were in great difficulties. The founders had to admit their mistakes to the employees, resorting to pledging assets, selling land, and borrowing on credit cards—common scenarios in startup stories, which also occurred at Kdan."
2. "新創的國際化策略及管理精準掌握海外企業需求,他擁800萬會員走向B2B" [The Internationalization Strategy of Startups and Management: Precisely Understanding Overseas Business Needs, With 8 Million Members Moving Towards B2B]. BusinessNext 數位時代 (in Chinese). December 2020. pp. 50–51. Retrieved 2024-12-29 – via Google Books.
  The article notes: "2015 年,除了商業模式「轉彎」,凱鈿也開始收斂 App的開發數量,蘇柏州當時梳理出3個主要產品線,包括 Document 365、Creativity 365 及Kdan Cloud。直到 2019 年,團隊才又端出另一條產品線:點點簽 DottedSign。自高峰時期1年52款App,到深耕3~ 4款系列產品,他們開始專注於產品的整合,以提供更好服務來維持用戶。2019 年,凱鈿訂閱戶的續訂率達8成、截至目前也累積了 800 萬註冊會員,其中有約3萬筆企業客戶名單,成為他們推廣SaaS服務的起點。"
  From Google Translate: "In 2015, in addition to the "turn" in its business model, Kdan also began to curb the number of app development. Subazhou sorted out three main product lines at that time, including Document 365, Creativity 365 and Kdan Cloud. It wasn’t until 2019 that the team launched another product line: DottedSign. From the peak of 52 apps per year to 3 to 4 product series, they began to focus on product integration to provide better services to maintain users. In 2019, the renewal rate of Kdan's subscribers reached 80%, and it has accumulated 8 million registered members so far, including about 30,000 corporate customer lists, which has become the starting point for them to promote SaaS services."
3. Li, I-Ju 李宜儒 (2023-12-03). "台南億級APP一哥1／累計超過2億次的下載量　從閱讀器打造生態系" [Tainan's Billion-Level App Leader: Over 200 Million Downloads, Building an Ecosystem from a Reader]. Want Weekly [zh] (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-12-29. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
  The article notes: "CTWANT記者調查，Kdan，其實是2009年在台南永康起家的本土APP軟體公司｢凱鈿」（Kdan），以APP搶快搶多求生，但在免費APP海量出現後險遭滅頂，轉而聚焦PDF工具用程式，並推出訂閱制服務，定期根據用戶反饋進行更新，獲得用戶好評，在2016年起獲得天使投資新台幣4000萬元，2018年完成A輪募資500萬美元（約新台幣1.5億元），由美商中經合集團、達盈管理顧問及日本Accord Ventures等共同投資。"
  From Google Translate: "According to CTWANT reporter's investigation, Kdan is actually a local APP software company "Kdan" (Kdan) founded in Yongkang, Tainan in 2009. It used APPs to grab the quickest and the most in order to survive. However, it was nearly wiped out after the massive emergence of free APPs, and it instead focused on PDFs. Tool program, and launched a subscription-based service, which is regularly updated based on user feedback, and has won praise from users. Since 2016, it has received angel investment of NT$40 million. In 2018, it completed the A-round fundraising of US$5 million (approximately NT$150 million). Yuan), jointly invested by the US-China Economic Cooperation Group, Daying Management Consultants and Japan's Accord Ventures."
4. Lin, Joyce (2020-10-05). "The Top Taiwanese App Company You Never Heard Of". CommonWealth Magazine. Archived from the original on 2020-11-14. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
  The article notes: "Lman Chu (朱宜振), the founder and CEO of blockchain startup BiiLabs, said Kdan’s choice at its inception to develop “tool apps” was smart because those apps resonate across borders, helping penetrate overseas markets and build overseas teams. Not coincidentally, Kdan has focused mainly on users in Western countries. At present, the United States is Kdan’s biggest market, accounting for 40 percent of its revenues, with another 25 percent coming from Europe, 20 percent from China, 5 percent from Japan, and 10 percent from the rest of the world. Kdan’s apps have gained strong followings in the West because users see them as native English-language products."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Kdan Mobile (traditional Chinese: 凱鈿; simplified Chinese: 凯钿) to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 10:32, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for searching:

1. Mentions Asia America Multitechnology Association, does not appear particular independent?

2. A trade source, I found this about page.

3. Covers Kdan Office, Generative AI and Hancom, a bit about Kdan and an interview with chair 蘇柏州.

4. (I will note that I had already linked CommonWealth mag in my nomination).

So I don't think the sources here are extraordinary.

Edit: Had accidentally swapped 1 and 2. I found a profile on chinatimes.com, a rather promotional article on businesstoday.com.tw and one comparison to Adobe by Techcrunch. IgelRM (talk) 23:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I consider the first source to be independent. It is unclear to me where Asia America Multitechnology Association is mentioned and why this would mean the source is not independent. BusinessNext is a business magazine focused on the technology and Internet sectors, which has a much broader scope than a trade magazine dedicated to a particular field. I consider it to be sufficiently independent to establish notability. The third and fourth sources include enough independent reporting and analysis about Kdan Mobile to establish notability. Cunard (talk) 01:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Doctor Worm

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I am nominating the articles on Doctor Worm and the following They Might Be Giants songs for deletion. Almost all of these articles were created between 2003 and 2006 (an era that surely had a large overlap of Wikipedians and TMBG fans) and do not hold up to contemporary notability standards.

Ana Ng (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Can't Keep Johnny Down (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Experimental Film (song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I Palindrome I (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
James K. Polk (song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Man, It's So Loud in Here (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Particle Man (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Purple Toupee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Put Your Hand Inside the Puppet Head (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
S-E-X-X-Y (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
(She Was A) Hotel Detective (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Snail Shell (song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The Statue Got Me High (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
They'll Need a Crane (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The Guitar (The Lion Sleeps Tonight) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

It looks like these articles all fail WP:NSONG. They Might Be Giants might be giants, but that doesn't make these songs notable. The only sources cited in these articles are either primary sources or album reviews, and the content can be merged into the respective albums.
Though the article Boss of Me is also in a poor state, I do not think it should be deleted, as I can find some sources that exist. e.g., Panama City News Herald, 2001 I cannot find non-trivial coverage of the songs I have listed, even ones as popular as "Ana Ng", but would be happy to be proven wrong. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 21:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Can't Keep Johnny Down and James K. Polk (song) which meet GNG, IMHO. Ana Ng I would think is on the cusp. Redirect the rest. Doctorhawkes (talk) 10:05, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment User:Vigilantcosmicpenguin, this is not correctly formatted as a bundled nomination so any closure will only affect the article in this AFD's page title. You can't just make a list of articles like you've done here. If you would like to nominate these other articles for deletion consideration, please review WP:AFD and follow the instructions for nominating multiple articles exactly. Also be sure to notify all of the page creators about this AFD. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry for not getting around to this until now. I have reformatted this AFD, and I hope I have done it correctly this time. I have also notified the creators of each page. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 17:51, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect "Doctor Worm" to Severe Tire Damage (album). This song article only gives us some very minor fan trivia with no evidence that it is notable enough for its own article, and I can find nothing beyond that same trivia. Meanwhile, in agreement with the comment above, there should be no discussion of the other songs piled into this list, without precise nominations for each. Some of the others are notable. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 16:41, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Redirect "Doctor Worm" to Severe Tire Damage (album). Didn't even chart nationally. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 04:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect Doctor Worm to Severe Tire Damage (album), procedural keep all the rest. A bundled nomination isn't appropriate here; these songs should be considered individually. Some are notable and some are not. The ones that are not can be redirected to the album articles, so they don't even necessarily have to go through AfD. Jfire (talk) 22:46, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also agree that bundling wasn't appropriate here. I created James K. Polk (song) and Put Your Hand Inside the Puppet Head well after the period mentioned in the nomination statement, and wrote them because I believed they cleared NSONG. If this discussion finds otherwise, so be it, but I'll give my creator's keep for them. For the rest, better to discuss individually, though for any that are not found to meet NSONG, redirect them to the respective album articles. There's really no need to delete. --BDD (talk) 23:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will say after a quick review, I'd be ok with redirecting They'll Need a Crane to Lincoln (album) and Man, It's So Loud in Here to Mink Car. That does seem a likely outcome for them such that a separate discussion wouldn't be so helpful. --BDD (talk) 23:23, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect agree with the above, to redirect "Doctor Worm" to Severe Tire Damage (album). — Preceding unsigned comment added by BonitueBera (talk • contribs) 00:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC) [reply]
Merge each of these songs with their respective album articles, or otherwise redirect all, including (regretfully, as a fan) the specific songs other editors have mentioned like Can't Keep Johnny down and James K. Polk. All of the sources mentioned on those pages are passing mentions rather than in-depth coverage, often as answers to individual questions in interviews. Tserton (talk) 21:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. I see a consensus for Doctor Worm but not for the other articles mentioned here. Also, if you participate in these AFD discussions, do not argue for a "Redirect" or "Merge" unless you are supplying a target article for each individual article to be Redirected or Merged to unless you are agreeing with another editor who has supplied this information. A closer can not Merge an article if there isn't clear information on where to Merge it and that comes from the consensus of editors, it's not the closer's best guess.
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CoinGecko

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Non-notable crypto nonsense. Even by the low bar of our crypto standards, it’s still not notable. Lacks any meaningful independent coverage and is, like most crypto in 2024, a dime a dozen. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 20:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Abdihakim Arabow Ibrahim

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Clearly fails WP:NPOL. Sources are single-event so a case of WP:BIO1E. GrabUp - Talk 19:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Two news articles are all I find. Being elected to a school board isn't notable, no matter what ethnicity he is. Does not meet NPOL. Would also not meet GNG as we don't have enough coverage in RS. Oaktree b (talk) 19:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Fails WP:NPOL, as he has not received enough reliable, non-trivial coverage to fit the second criteria. Jordano^5³ 22:09, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aatral Ashok Kumar

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The sources are one-event cases of WP:BIO1E, and the subject failed to win the election, so it fail WP:NPOL. GrabUp - Talk 19:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mathieu Ostiguy

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Non-notable figure skater; absolutely does not meet the criteria of WP:NSKATE, with zero senior-level competition and zero junior-level international medal placements. Despite the volume of provided sources, most of those are competition results and databases, and what isn't appears to mostly be skating blogs. I'll let the community decide whether what's there qualifies as "significant coverage." Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Joe Wilkinson (footballer, born 1995)

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Fails GNG. Extremely short pro career. Article has. routine or primary sources. Yorkshire Live has an article which might be okay but alone doesn't establish notability. Beware that he has a famous comedian namesake who does a football podcast. Canary757 (talk) 18:19, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 2015–16 Huddersfield Town A.F.C. season which is his sole claim to fame. Giant Snowman 20:07, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per above and no SIGCOV that I could find. CNC (talk) 21:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vanskere

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Both this article and Evans Akere are promotional while relying on WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA. The same creator wrote both and also added the brand to Fashion in Nigeria. 🄻 🄰 18:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Matt Hoffland

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Musician that does not meet the requirements of WP:GNG. He's released four albums but the first two were independent releases (the other two are on obscure labels). A Google search finds social media presence but no sign of significant coverage. Pichpich (talk) 18:09, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: As the nom said, I can only locate social media for this person. No media reviews or stories about this person. Not meeting notability. Oaktree b (talk) 18:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Evans Akere

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Both this article and Vanskere are promotional while relying on WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA. The same creator wrote both and also added the brand to Fashion in Nigeria 🄻 🄰 18:07, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wes Berry

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Promotional and created by a user who has only edited this article. 🄻 🄰 17:59, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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DELETE — Article fails WP:GNG. While the subject is described as a bestselling author and entrepreneur, the references primarily consist of self-published materials (Goodreads) or promotional sources (espeakers.com) and press releases (Agility PR Solutions Newsroom). None of the cited sources provide in-depth, independent analysis of the subject's life or work.

Claims of “bestselling” status lack verification from independent and reliable sources and appear to rely on press releases, see: WP:RS. Subject also fails Wikipedia:AUTHOR. Nyxion³⁰³ 💬 Talk 18:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ranaghat Government Polytechnic

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL, no SIGCOV coverages found. Colleges are not inherently notable. GrabUp - Talk 17:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Memari Government Polytechnic

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL, no SIGCOV coverages found. Colleges are not inherently notable. GrabUp - Talk 17:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Misters of Nigeria

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Sources all appear to be WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA 🄻 🄰 17:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jalpaiguri Institute of Technology

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL, no SIGCOV coverages found. Colleges are not inherently notable. GrabUp - Talk 17:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Itahar Government Polytechnic

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL, no SIGCOV coverages found. Colleges are not inherently notable. GrabUp - Talk 17:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kalimpong Government Polytechnic

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL, no SIGCOV coverages found. Colleges are not inherently notable. GrabUp - Talk 17:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mathabhanga Government Polytechnic

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL, no SIGCOV coverages found. Colleges are not inherently notable. GrabUp - Talk 17:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Inde News

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The only sources are a press release and a random blog? 🄻 🄰 17:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shree Tribhuvan Secondary School

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Fails WP:SCHOOLOUTCOME or WP:NSCHOOL, sources are not independent and don’t provide SIGCOV coverage. GrabUp - Talk 17:09, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alketa Spahiu

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Fails WP:NBASIC and WP:NPROF. (NPP action) C F A 16:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 17:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I would suggest draftification as an unsourced BLP, but that's already been done once and contested, and I can find no evidence of academic or author notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This was in draft for a while. Not only is it completely unsourced (and I found no coverage on a search), but it is totally lacking in specifics that would indicate possible notability. Seems to be a WP:MILL professor, and nothing encyclopedic would be lost by deleting this. The author of the article knows so much about this person's personal life that it is very likely COI, if not the subject. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:07, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — agree with the above and even with the benefit of doubt to the author, there is no notability at all, no sources, no coverage at all of the subject anywhere to be found. Nyxion³⁰³ 💬 Talk 20:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No sources and apparently a total of 2 cites on GS. We normally expect 100s if not 1000s. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:59, 30 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

JCC Maccabi Youth Games

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Redirect to parent org Maccabi World Union, where it is better contextualized. Youth version of the notable Maccabiah Games. Longhornsg (talk) 16:13, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Naftali Schiff

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Fails WP:GNG. The article reads a lot like a CV. The piece "Rabbi Naftali Schiff: Aish UK's wonderwall" by The Jewish Chronicle might be one source that counts towards notability, but other than that, I haven't been able to find much. Mooonswimmer 15:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. Thanks for the nomination -- I had thought about AfDing this article when originally creating Josef Lewkowicz. Most of the sources currently in the article are poor, and it needs a WP:TNT. But there are multiple, in-depth profiles in the Jewish Chronicle and Jewish News over the years [3], [4], [5], multiple=page coverage in a book [6], with additional coverage of Schiff role in his charities [7], [8], [9], that could suffice for notability. Longhornsg (talk) 16:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Results of the 2023 Alberta general election

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Content forks of unclear necessity. The standard format for Canadian provincial election results is to include the final vote counts in the unified "candidates" tables within the main election article first, and then consider moving that table to a new separate "results" page only if article-size considerations demand that. That is, separate results pages do not always have to exist across the board separately from the main election article: that's a size control option, not a standard requirement. And when a separate results page does exist it's supposed to do so instead of the candidates table being present in the main election article, not alongside that, and it's supposed to consist of the candidates table being moved from the main election article so that the separate page looks like this.
But that's not what's happening here: all of these pages exist alongside, not instead of, the candidates tables still being present in the main election articles, and all of them are transcluding individual "district results" templates instead of using the unified table like they're supposed to.
Additionally, it warrants note that these were all created within the past month by a (non-Canadian, as far as I know) editor who doesn't really contribute on Canadian politics on a regular, ongoing basis, and instead tends to jump in only on election nights to create a hashpile of improperly formatted stubs about the newly elected legislators, which other people inevitably end up having to repair after the fact -- just in October's New Brunswick election alone, I and another editor both had to post to their talk page to tell them they were doing things wrong, and at least in my case it wasn't the first time I had to post to their talk page to tell them they were doing things wrong.
Again, it's an either/or choice between including the candidates table in the main article without a separate results page, or moving the candidates table to a separate results page instead of being in the main article. There's simply no prior precedent or need to duplicate the same information in two different places, and no election ever needs both a candidates table in the main article and a separate results page. It's one or the other, not both, and either way it needs to be formatted via the unified table, not via the transclusion of 50-70 individual district results templates. Bearcat (talk) 15:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - These pages are for the templates to make it easier to view results than the tables which are difficult to read. I am currently constructing Results of the 2024 New Brunswick general election as the riding results on some pages are still missing. Moondragon21 (talk) 18:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ryo Nakamura (footballer, born 1996)

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Lacks significant and independent coverage to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. None of the sources in ja:wiki are significant or secondary. Geschichte (talk) 14:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:SPORTCRIT / WP:FOOTYN). QEnigma talk 15:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 16:49, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Not seeing that the subject meets GNG CNC (talk) 17:21, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ryo Nakamura (footballer, born 1989)

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Light years away from meeting WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Geschichte (talk) 14:59, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:SPORTCRIT / WP:FOOTYN) criteria. Material not available for WP:V. QEnigma talk 15:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 16:49, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No significant coverage what so ever. CNC (talk) 17:19, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP, but merge with corrections — this article seems like a duplication of the already-existing Reo Nakamura (footballer, born 1990) and hence a merge into the existing article may be more appropriate, once the errors have been corrected. It seems like the author of the article has made a spelling error, instead of “Reo” (the correct first name) they have put “Ryo” as the name of the subject and (for some reason) changed their DoB from 1990 to 1989.

The article's own source shows the name of the subject as “Reo”, not “Ryo” (as the author has put) and the correct DoB of the subject as 1990, not 1989 (as the author has put). The reason the others (CC: @GiantSnowman, @CommunityNotesContributor, @QEnigma) could not verify/find sources was because the author wrote the incorrect information on the Wikipedia article. The career statistics section, especially, I feel could be merged into the already existing article.

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Well spotted - but where is the significant coverage of this person? Giant Snowman 19:02, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For Reo Nakamura (correct name), I was able to find some through this Google search and this one — 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 just to name a few.

At the moment, it appears the player plays for Ezra F.C., in the Pepsi Lao League 1.

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Peggy Batchelor

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Contested draftification of an article on a non-notable actor. There is no reliable source for the WP:OR claim that she was the oldest-ever actor who had appeared in Doctor Who (not that that is even a claim to notability). The source for this claim appears to be a Doctor Who wiki. She fails WP:NACTOR as her handful of roles appear to be minor parts, and they are sourced to IMDb, an unreliable source. She fails WP:GNG/WP:NBIO for lack of coverage in independent, reliable sources. There are a couple of articles in a hyper-local village newsletter ([10], [11]), another WP:SPS ([12]), and a self-published as-told-to quasi-autobiography. As for WP:ANYBIO #1, I looked into her Fellowship in the Royal Society of Arts, but it's not a rare honor (there are 31,000 active Fellows) and can be acquired by online application and payment of a fee. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Dclemens1971: Hello. I understand. However, what I do not understand is how some articles such as this one are accepted but not others. This seems like discrimination. There are people as notable as Peggy Batchelor or less notable than her who have pages. Please explain. Spectritus (talk) 15:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not discrimination in any way. It's about independent, secondary, reliable sources. IMDB isn't a reliable source. Wendover News is not likely an independent source. Peggy Batchelor's as-told-to, self-published autobiography is not a reliable, independent, or secondary sources. Pointing to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS doesn't make Batchelor any more notable. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:13, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971: Doesn't the fact someone wrote a book about her make her notable enough? Also, may I ask how users are supposed to find sources if Wikipedia condemns almost all of them?

The author wrote a book "as told to" her, which means it's basically Peggy Batchelor talking about herself, and thus not independent. And the biography was published by AuthorHouse, which is a vanity press and thus it's a WP:SELFPUBLISHED source and not reliable. English Wikipedia does not condemn almost all sources; it has specific standards, and the ones you used in this article don't meet them. If you have questions about individual sources or sourcing more generally, please visit WP:RSN. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Zero coverage found for this individual, acting roles are minor, would not pass notability for actors. A voice role in Doctor Who isn't the stuff of notability. Oaktree b (talk) 19:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tunku Irinah

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Minor royal and non-notable business exec. Sole claim to fame seems to be a lot of awards received from her own family, though sources on the awards are pretty thin on the ground. In a WP:BEFORE search I could find only passing mentions in Malay and English. A redirect might be the best alternative to deletion, but I couldn't work out an appropriate target, so brought it to AFD for discussion. Wikishovel (talk) 14:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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John B. Lee

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WP:BLP of a writer, not properly sourced as passing WP:AUTHOR. As always, writers are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to show certain specific markers of achievement supported by WP:GNG-worthy third-party coverage about them in media and books -- but this article is completely unreferenced, and is not making any strong notability claims.
The main attempts at notability claims are that he's been municipal poet laureate of a small city and that he's been a recipient of various minor and/or unspecified literary awards that aren't highly prominent enough to confer instant inclusion freebies without sourcing for them. An award has to be notable in its own right before it can make its winners notable for winning it, so notability doesn't derive from the presence of the word "award" in the article text, it derives from the quality of the sourcing you can show to support that the award is a sufficiently notable one in the first place.
Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to pass GNG on his sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 14:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dokuzuncu Hariciye Koğuşu

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Tagged 6 years ago as unsourced. The source on the Turkish article might be good and I found https://ahmetandicenmtal.meb.k12.tr/meb_iys_dosyalar/06/22/256625/dosyalar/2022_12/30193320_Peyami-Safa-Dokuzuncu-Hariciye-Kogusu.pdf which is maybe the script? But 2 sources are not enough to show notability Chidgk1 (talk) 13:32, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I think the source in the Turkish article supports WP:NF. The novel is much more notable than the film and covered in school curricula in Turkey. The film seems to be an adaptation of it with a cast consisting of top actors in Turkey. We need to check the archives to find more sources. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 16:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Adding another source, a thesis comparatively analyzing the film and the novel. [13] TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 17:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mona Simpson (The Simpsons)

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Did WP:BEFORE, but found zero sigcov at all. Only this source [14] is quite good out of all that have been used, but I don't think this one also counts as sigcov. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 13:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with List of recurring The Simpsons characters Mona is an interesting charachter with a fun background, being voiced by Glenn Close and named after Steve Jobs' biological sister, but it's hard to justify an article for someone who just has (6)? appearances in the show over 30 years and no significant coverage. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 17:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Dadı

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Tagged 6 years ago for lack of cites. As far as I can tell the cites on the Turkish article are just for stuff like what time it was on rather than whether it was a good show or successful Chidgk1 (talk) 13:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ziya Taner

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Tagged 7 years ago as unsourced. I checked a couple of the sources on the Turkish article but not sure they are enough - for example they don’t support the first sentence here saying he was born in Macedonia Chidgk1 (talk) 13:06, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment If I were to judge purely based on their managerial career – having managed Beşiktaş J.K., one of the three major Turkish football clubs and having led Ankaragücü to a Turkish Cup win – I'd say there's no doubt they are notable. Robby.is.on (talk) 13:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per Robby, this guy is clearly notable, just needs improvement and offline, Turkish language sources. WP:COMMONSENSE needed. Giant Snowman 16:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pir (Alevism)

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Tagged many years ago as unsourced this does not seem notable enough to need a separate article. No objection to merging but I don’t know which other article would be most suitable. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Indian winners and nominees of the New York Film Critics Circle

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This page fails WP:NLIST, since none of the sources (or any others reviewed in BEFORE search) discuss Indian winners and nominees at the New York Film Critics Circle as a group. First off, there appear to be only two entries on this list, and all the sources describe their individual wins, not them as a group. Contested draftification. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – no sign of significance as a group per WP:NLIST. While NLIST allows for certain other types of lists regardless of notability, this does not fall into those categories. RunningTiger123 (talk) 21:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lecoanet Hemant

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 12:00, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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James Burke (footballer, born 1994)

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Fails GNG with 1 database source. No notable pro career. Canary757 (talk) 11:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:03, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:SPORTCRIT / WP:FOOTYN). No notable professional career. Statistics available online fail to provide a consensus ([15] and [16]). No WP:RS and WP:IS for WP:V. QEnigma talk 14:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Among all the James Burke's out there, I found an Irish footballer manager, but nothing for the English footballer. CNC (talk) 17:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hill States–Sikh wars

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Full of OR and synth mess, likely a mix of other conflicts, with hardly any mentions of such an event in the sources, couldn't establish notability in my WP:BEFORE for "Hill States–Sikh wars," which allegedly lasted over a century. Garuda ^Talk! 11:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shakti Pumps

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 11:52, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zensai AI

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Contested draftification, so off to AfD. Company fails WP:NCORP, and it's a particularly egregious case of WP:ADMASQ, almost to the line of a G11. Contrary to the article's claim, it does not appear on the 2024 FT 1000 list (not that that would confer notability if it did). The rest of the sources are limited to:

Corporate press releases ([17], [18], [19], [20], [21])
Articles by Zensai employees ([22], [23])
WP:PRIMARYSOURCES like Zensai's description of its products in app stores ([24]) and other Zensai sponsored content ([25])
A promotional product review ([26])
Sources that I'm guessing were added in error since they either don't mention the company ([27]) or are the website of an entirely different company.

WP:BEFORE search turns up only more corporate press releases. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:50, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Agree with the source review above, PR items and other sources that aren't reliable. I can only bring up PR items in my searches as well. Appears to be PROMO. Oaktree b (talk) 18:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rizwan Sajan

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This promotional spam page is being continuously created by UPI editors. Fails GNG. All the sources are paid pieces. Thilsebatti (talk) 11:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete and salt. I can't see if it's eligible for a G4, but the sources are spammy and unreliable unbylined WP:NEWSORGINDIA-type articles, so it should be deleted regardless. There is no independent, reliable WP:SIGCOV for a WP:GNG or WP:NBIO pass. Salting is appropriate given the numerous attempts at recreation. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adil Qadri

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This article appears to have escaped a CSD G4 on the technicality that the CSD tag was removed not by the page creator but the by editor who moved this page into mainspace. That said, it's previously been deleted under an alternate name (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohamadadil Asif Malkani) and has been repeatedly deleted.

Since we are now forced into a second AfD, here's the rationale and source analysis. The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. Appearing on Shark Tank India does not generate notability. It is also WP:ADMASQ, with WP:PROMO language like Qadri's journey into the world of fragrances began at an early age, driven by his passion for fine aromas and an interest in traditional perfume-making techniques and As a self-made entrepreneur, his journey serves as an inspiration to aspiring business owners looking to break into niche markets. The sources do not support notability. We have:

Unbylined coverage that is unreliable per WP:NEWSORGINDIA ([28], [29], [30], [31], [32], [33], [34])
WP:ORGTRIV focused on his company, not on him ([35], [36], [37])
Tabloid journalism ineligible as WP:SIGCOV per WP:SBST ([38])
An apparent piece of WP:SIGCOV ([39]) but on a promotional site that publishes paid articles without disclosure.
An article that does not even mention him ([40])

I didn't find anything else qualifying in the WP:BEFORE search. Given its history of recreation, I am requesting editor support for WP:SALTING this title. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jay Prabha Medanta Super Specialty Hospital

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Fails WP:NORG and WP:NHOSPITALS. No source proves it to be a Level 1 trauma center. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 11:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Century Textile and Industries

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 11:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of investment banks in Uganda

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Disputed PROD. Fails WP:NLIST. No independent reliable sources that establish notability of the list (especially regarding investment banks specifically) as a whole. Also most entries are not notable with most of the ones having entries being about the parent company instead.

We already have a general list per List of investment banks. I also cannot see why this country gets a specific list for investment banks while most other countries have their investment bank list as a category instead. Imcdc Contact 11:14, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Marion G. Wells Foundation

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No reliable secondary sources discussing it, note that Sourcewatch is classified as generally unreliable. Doug Weller talk 10:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Marion G. Wells. I'm not sure she's notable either, but there's a page there that would make sense as an AtD for this topic. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I'm not finding any sources, but TBH I'm not looking that hard because I'm also not seeing a lot of reason to think sources would exist. Per ProPublica, this foundation has $2.78M in total assets and a revenue of $318k. If this is a 'major' donor to Conservative Partnership Institute ($71.1M and $19.5M) and The Heritage Foundation ($415M and $101M) than I would expect to see some discussion in sources. The sources for the Heritage Foundation are just PDFs which list this among dozens and dozens of similar foundations with no indication of particular significance. Grayfell (talk) 21:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nirmalabs

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Fails WP:NORG. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Article made by COI user. Imcdc Contact 10:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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RepublicAsia

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Fails WP:GNG two sources are from itself. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 10:00, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Repro India

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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STONEX India

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Page is promotional WP:PROMO. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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RNB Research

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Media sources are either dead links or have no mentions at all. They should be reviewed carefully once again. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pinnacle Air (India)

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No IATA code, no ICAO code, no call sign. Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Niyogi Books

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Villagers Film Studio

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nectar Lifesciences

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lakshmi Machine Works

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:28, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Haldyn Glass

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Super Penguins

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This game is not notable as there are no RS that discuss it. What I see are primary sources that are minor reviews Seminita (talk) 08:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hans_Andre

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I believe the subject does not meet notability requirements. There is no article on the Swedish-language wikipedia. Of the five references provided, two are NY Arts Magazine which is, from what I can gather (and correct me if I'm wrong), a vanity publisher. SallyRenee (talk) 08:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kehinde Thomas

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Failed to meet Wikipedia Notability Requirement for biography Abu4real1995 (talk) 07:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Sources are all substanceless puff pieces. "Played for the Steelers" seems like an audacious lie. I can't find any record of this. Maybe he somehow left before he started playing, but I really doubt it. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 21:34, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sukhdev Singh Gogamedi

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He got the attention in news media when he was allegedly shot by notorious gangster Lawrence Bishnoi gang and he was also a president of state level organisation i.e., Shree Rashtriya Rajput Karni Sena. But we do not create pages for presidents of caste based state organisations like Rajasthan Jat Mahasabha or Rajput Karni Sena of Rajasthan. If you see the sources then in almost all sources it is about “he shot by bishnoi gang”. I think he fails WP:GNG because he got attention only due to single event of being shot by alleged notorious gangster. TheSlumPanda (talk) 12:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Delete. Coverage of the subject in either English or Hindi centers exclusively around his murder and is concentrated within the time frame of December 2023 to January 2024. The subject would fall under WP:1E, which states that "When the role played by an individual in the event is less significant, and little or no other information is available to use in the writing of a balanced biography, an independent article may not be needed." Tutwakhamoe (talk) 17:29, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Diether Roderich Reinsch

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~~Non-notable, article has no references, and as far as I can see, none can be found on searching anywhere DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 07:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)~~ Withdrawing AfD, see below[reply]

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Question. Would the nominator care to comment on the subject's citation record in this low cited field? Xxanthippe (talk) 10:51, 30 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]
He does have a lot of works in his field, but nothing I have seen after a WP:Before suggests that he has had a significant impact in his discipline, nor does anything suggest he meets any of the other criteria in WP:NPROF either- and I especially checked all the criteria in case anything came up. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 12:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:AUTHOR and the multiple reviews of multiple of his works available on JSTOR: JSTOR 41121771, JSTOR 27687156, JSTOR 27626011, JSTOR 41048102, JSTOR 23463955, JSTOR 27689329, JSTOR 20861469. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:49, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passes WP:Prof#C1 of basis of citations in this very low cited field. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:51, 30 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Withdraw I couldn't find the reviews presented by User:David Eppstein (thanks), I should have searched differently, therefore withdrawing deletion nom DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 22:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tunbow

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Appears to be wholly promotional Amigao (talk) 06:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Only routine business listings found. Fails WP:NCORP. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The company's Chinese name is Tunbow Group (traditional Chinese: 東保集團; simplified Chinese: 东保集团) and the founder is Charles Chan (traditional Chinese: 陳鑑光; simplified Chinese: 陈鉴光). Cunard (talk) 11:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Chong, Cheng-man 莊程敏; Yan, Kiu-ling 殷考玲 (2021-09-09). "老品牌拓疆土升級須創新" [Old Brands Expand Territories, Upgrading Requires Innovation]. Lion Rock Daily [zh] (in Chinese). p. P6. Archived from the original on 2024-12-29. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
  The article notes: "有「熨斗大王」之稱的東保集團創辦人兼主席陳鑑光博士，憑藉2001年推出自家研發塑料製成的電子控溫熨斗，短短一年售出逾70萬件，從此奠定集團在歐洲市場的地位，但他並未因此滿足。去年在港設立研究開發部門，為進軍大灣區9市市場作準備，目標以開拓9+2城市的家庭為主。東保集團成立逾25年，產品走中高端路線，研究開發（R&D）部門一直在內地，但由去年起在香港同樣設立R&D部門並設逾20位開發人員"
  From Google Translate: "Dr. Chen Jianguang, the founder and chairman of Tunbow Group, known as the "Iron King", launched his own electronic temperature-controlled irons made of plastic in 2001. More than 700,000 units were sold in just one year, establishing the group's position in the European market. status, but he was not satisfied with it. Last year, a research and development department was established in Hong Kong to prepare for entering the 9 cities in the Greater Bay Area. The goal is to develop families in the 9+2 cities. Tunbow Group has been established for more than 25 years, and its products are mid-to-high-end. The research and development (R&D) department has always been in the mainland. But since last year, it has also set up an R&D department in Hong Kong with more than 20 developers."
2. "鼓勵溝通合作助企業擺脫單打獨鬥香港模具及產品科技協會見證「百業之母」改朝換代" [Encouraging Communication and Cooperation to Help Businesses Break Free from Solo Struggles: Hong Kong Mould and Product Technology Association Witnesses the Transformation of the 'Mother of All Industries']. Headline Daily (in Chinese). 2016-01-28. p. P40.
  The article notes: "憑首創開放蒸發器熨斗，成功晉身世界五大熨斗代工生產商，贏得“熨斗大王”稱譽的東保集團創辦人兼主席陳鑑光博士（Dr. Charles Chan，見圖），全靠他面對挑戰時視危為機的信念。陳鑑光博士與他的太太在90年代初期決定闖一闖，合組貿易公司，成立東保。在創業初期，東保只是以設計及貿易性質運作。"
  From Google Translate: "With the first open evaporator iron, Dr. Charles Chan (pictured), founder and chairman of Tunbow Group, successfully joined the world's top five iron OEM manufacturers and won the title of "Iron King", all because of his ability to face challenges The belief that every crisis is an opportunity. Dr. Chen Kam-kwong and his wife decided to venture into the business in the early 1990s, forming a trading company and establishing Tunbow. In the early days of business, Tunbow only operated in the nature of design and trading."
3. Sit, Wai-kit 薛偉傑 (2010-08-06). "小家電商 8招抗逆境" [8 Strategies for Small Home Appliance Businesses to Overcome Adversity]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). p. B11.
  The article notes: "東保集團成立於1995 年，主力生產小型家電，特別是電熨斗。其客戶包括多個知名品牌如伊萊克斯、飛利浦、白朗、Kenwood、勝家等。"
  From Google Translate: "Tunbow Group was established in 1995 and focuses on the production of small household appliances, especially electric irons. Its customers include many well-known brands such as Electrolux, Philips, Blanc, Kenwood, Singer, etc."
  The article notes: "另外，東保集團與一般廠商不同的，是它很強調一條龍式垂直生產。該公司自設電路板生產部、五金部、壓鑄部、塑膠部、噴油部等。總之，就是自行生產其小家電所需的電路板、金屬機殼、塑膠機殼，以及自行為機殼噴油。"
  From Google Translate: "In addition, Tunbow Group is different from ordinary manufacturers in that it emphasises one-stop vertical production. The company has its own circuit board production department, hardware department, die-casting department, plastic department, fuel injection department, etc. In short, it means producing the circuit boards, metal casings, and plastic casings needed for its small household appliances by itself, and spraying oil on the casings by itself."
4. Leung Man-fung 梁文峰 (2010-07-12). "東保拓內銷或5年內上市" [Tunbow Expands Domestic Sales, May Go Public within 5 Years]. Sing Pao Daily News (in Chinese). p. B1.
  The article notes: "家電設計、生產商東保集團為開拓內銷市場，正於惠州投資5億元擴展生產基地，預計總產能將提升5 倍。現時深圳兩廠房共有約20條生產線，年產800萬台小家電。"
  From Google Translate: "Tunbow Group, a home appliance designer and manufacturer, is investing 500 million yuan to expand its production base in Huizhou in order to develop the domestic market. It is expected that the total production capacity will increase five times. Currently, the two factories in Shenzhen have a total of about 20 production lines, with an annual output of 8 million units of small household appliances."
5. "圖：深圳港資企業「綠色風」盛" [Tunbow Expands Domestic Sales, May Go Public Within 5 Years] (in Chinese). China News Service. 2010-07-07.
  The article notes: "7月7日，一群香港媒體記者專程來到深圳寶安，釆訪推行「綠色生產」、「綠色小家電」揚名業界的香港東保集團深圳生產基地。該集團為減少生產污染投資3,000多萬港圓對硬體和軟體進行改善工程，企業環保創新產品不斷出現。目前集團20條生產線，年產800萬台各式家用電器，暢銷美國、加拿大及歐盟、東南亞26個國家。"
  From Google Translate: "On 7 July a group of Hong Kong media reporters made a special trip to Bao'an, Shenzhen to visit the Shenzhen production base of Hong Kong Tunbow Group, which is famous in the industry for promoting "green production" and "green small home appliances". The group has invested more than HKD 30 million in hardware and software improvement projects to reduce production pollution, and innovative environmentally friendly products have continued to emerge. At present, the group has 20 production lines, with an annual output of 8 million units of various household appliances, which are sold well in the United States, Canada, the European Union, and 26 countries in Southeast Asia."
6. "東保集團董事總經理鄧美華東保集團積極開拓高技術高加值特色化的家電產品" [Tunbow Group Managing Director, Ms. Tan Meihua: Tunbow Group Actively Expanding High-Tech, High-Value, and Specialised Home Appliance Products]. Hong Kong Commercial Daily (in Chinese). 2018-12-19. p. AA10.
  The article notes: "身為本港知名企業，東保集團積極開拓高技術、高增值、特色化的家電產品，推出電子熨斗、強力蒸氣專業熨斗、電子蒸籠、濃湯機及全自動咖啡機。公司成立於1994年，與香港一同經歷風雨，亦一同成長。作為營商者為公司賺取利潤固然重要，但東保集團更有一份香港精神，與客戶共渡時艱，這更為可貴。"
  From Google Translate: "As a well-known enterprise in Hong Kong, Tunbow Group actively develops high-tech, high value-added and specialised home appliance products, launching electronic irons, powerful steam professional irons, electronic steamers, soup makers and fully automatic coffee machines. The company was established in 1994 and has experienced ups and downs together with Hong Kong and has grown together. As a businessman, it is important to make profits for the company, but Tunbow Group has more of a Hong Kong spirit and shares difficulties with its customers, which is even more valuable."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Tunbow Group (traditional Chinese: 東保集團; simplified Chinese: 东保集团) to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".
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Apify

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Appears to be entirely promotional and lacks WP:SUSTAINED notability. Amigao (talk) 06:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Updated the article to include Czech and Slovak sources, in which the company has sustained coverage going back to 2017. Below are examples, which show the company to be notable in the Central European startup and business community. Additionally, a search of Stack Overflow's site shows many pages of developer discussion about Apify, indicating its widespread use.

https://zpravy.aktualne.cz/finance/nakupovani/black-friday-skutecne-slevy-porovnani/r~ab190004d43d11e7984d0cc47ab5f122/

https://cc.cz/apify-nepresvedcilo-investory-miliardove-ambice-tak-vystridalo-propousteni-krizi-ale-nakonec-prezilo/

https://www.hrot24.cz/clanek/do-apify-priteklo-70-milionu-korun-prazsky-startup-se-chce-stat-dalsim-ceskym-jednorozcem-HVEEd

https://fontech.startitup.sk/umela-inteligencia-regulacia-slovensko-pre-a-proti/

https://www.zive.cz/clanky/internet-patri-botum-ne-lidem-cesti-apify-je-prodavaji-jako-aplikace-podcast-zive/sc-3-a-229824/default.aspx

https://cc.cz/tezi-data-z-webu-a-je-v-zisku-datove-apify-ma-pres-200-tisic-uzivatelu-ted-nabira-70-milionu/

https://www.lupa.cz/aktuality/cesti-scraperi-webovych-dat-apify-ziskali-od-j-t-a-fryce-desitky-milionu-na-dalsi-expanzi/

https://www.cfoworld.cz/clanky/cfo-pod-lupou-dusan-antos-apify/

https://www.e15.cz/byznys/cesky-startup-dodal-evropske-komisi-program-ktery-hlida-e-shopy-s-falesnymi-slevami-1413801

https://www.businessinfo.cz/clanky/necista-hra-se-zakazniky/

https://www.cnews.cz/clanky/cerny-patek-2017-alza-czc-mall-falesne-slevy/

https://www.trend.sk/trend-archiv/hlavne-to-nepokazit-startupy-apify-yieldigo-memsource-to-maju-nasliapnute-elitneho-klubu

https://cc.cz/startupawards2024/apify/

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2010 Duke University faux sex thesis controversy

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I am nominating this article because I do not believe it meets notability guidelines.

Note that this article was previously deleted and then undeleted.

WP:EVENT - this content has no enduring historical significance. This does not have widespread national or international impact. This is arguably routine in the sense of shock news/water cooler stories/viral phenomena.
There are no lasting effects
The geographical scope is limited to Duke
The duration of coverage is limited to 2010 with one more article a few months later
There is one NYTimes article surveying the person in question but the focus is on the aftermath rather than the event in question or even the controversy in question
WP:NOTNEWS -
Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events. While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion and Wikipedia is not written in news style."
In the original AFD, the author wrote

This is not an article about the faux thesis, it's an article about the controversy that the faux thesis generated.

However, after 10 years, I think it is fair to say that one of the responses to that is quite accurate

But most of the coverage was not commentary on the controversy (and "media discussion over routine privacy breaches" is also very routine and needs a fairly high standard to pass WP:NOT#NEWS. For example, is there evidence that any reliable sources have assessed this controversy within the field of "controversies over privacy" and concluding this is a significant one?). As a controversy, is this seen or will this be seen as a controversy of "enduring notability" (WP:NOT) that changed, shaped or defined the debate on privacy compared to a thousand other private communications that someone's friend posted to the world and went viral?

There are also WP:BLP considerations but I am more reluctant to specifically cite policy because this is not a biographical article. I invite others to do so if they are more confident on the matter. Transcendence (talk) 05:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Per nom, there's no indication there is lasting interest in this event, even at Duke. Campus controversies like this seem somewhat common at this point. I don't think it's even worth a mention at History of Duke University#Recent history: 1993–present, and it also seems undue weight to list at even Template:Duke University. Reywas92^Talk 18:00, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: the matter is properly cited to multiple reliable sources, including indeed The New York Times, which has covered the matter more than once actually: the one in the article is from 2018, eight years after the 'thesis' went viral, so the concern about a brief news event is incorrect. The matter has been covered by numerous other newspapers and news sites so its notability is not in doubt. ~~I'll add~~I have added a few more sources and descriptions of reactions by The Daily Telegraph and The New York Times (including in later years) for good measure, but the article is already correctly sourced and summarizes the story clearly. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Multiple reliable sources confirms this event's lasting notability. Add doi:10.1177/1045159514558412 and this to the list of sources. Esculenta (talk) 13:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added both of those, and came across yet more useful sources when I did so. One other point: the 2010 AfD only had sources from that year, so it was actually too early to tell if the matter had a wider effect. We now have five substantial sources from later years, in multiple disciplines, so we know that it did. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:40, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Multiple reliable sources (and artistic responses) confirm notability. However, I agree with "deletes" it probably does not belong prominently in Duke University templates any longer: the coverage and artistic response does not seem to emphasize this as a notable event for Duke specifically but rather for the Internet and contemporary sexual patterns in general, as an epitome. It may make more sense to attach this page to general Internet events or sexuality templates rather than to the Duke template. RowanElder (talk) 21:28, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled Web Series About a Space Traveler Who Can Also Travel Through Time

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Has a lot of sources but nothing particurly in depth. Most nothing beyond basic release info, plot recap and casting info fails WP:NTV Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: as there is sufficient coverage in reliable sources, including one page in Playing Fans: Negotiating Fandom and Media in the Digital Age and one paragraph in The Last Pirate's History of Doctor Who... -Mushy Yank. 09:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is also a 13-page paper dedicated to the series https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15405702.2013.779505; see also https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15405702.2013.779505. Please kindly consider withdrawing this nomination as your concern seems addressed. @OlifanofmrTennant. Thank you very much. -Mushy Yank. 09:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Worth noting that the book Playing Fans reuses large portions of the paper, as confirmed by the book's acknowledgements (and a quick skimming of both sources – the paper can be viewed through Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library), so they're basically a single source. And the mention in The Last Pirate's History is a brief mention in a long list, so I wouldn't call that mention significant. Other sources in the article may contribute to notability as well, but these by themselves aren't enough. RunningTiger123 (talk) 04:16, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would say they are. But if you want, feel free to add Broadcast in the U.S.: Foreign TV Series Brought to America, p. 232-233. And https://collider.com/community-inspector-spacetime/ And http://braindamaged.fr/20/11/2012/web-serie-zone-inspector-spacetime/ And https://geeksofdoom.com/2014/03/12/inspector-spacetimes-untitled-web-series-needs-help-make-inspector-chronicles-movie And so on. No further comments. Still inviting the nominator to withdraw. -Mushy Yank. 12:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why is Geeks of Doom reliable? And most of these are talking about the gag itself which is not up for deletion. The Collider source talks about it at the very end with nothing beyond "this cool thing happened and there was no season 2" Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 19:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did you open the books? Read the papers? Check other existing sources? -Mushy Yank. 22:20, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"And most of these are talking about the gag itself which is not up for deletion."=No, most of the sources I mention talk about the web series which you took for deletion, and some are "particurly in depth." So your concern that "Most nothing beyond basic release info, plot recap and casting info fails WP:NTV" seems totally addressed (if a page can "fail" an essay, btw). https://www.vulture.com/2012/09/not-inspector-spacetime.html (limited) https://comicbook.com/comicbook/news/communitys-inspector-spacetime-launches-his-own-untitled-webseries/ (for the history of the production) and so on. https://filmschoolrejects.com/the-inspector-chronicles-is-the-doctor-who-spoof-movie-sorta-spun-off-from-community-e844667fd8e7/ It meets the general requirements for notability even if it's only with the dedicated article and 2 of the books. Feel free to add the sources you like best to the page. Thank you. -Mushy Yank. 22:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Erratum: in my first reply to myself I linked twice the same paper; the second paper I intended to link was: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1461444814558907 -Mushy Yank. 12:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(noting for anyone who can't view the article through TWL) This is another article by the same author, Paul Booth. Per WP:GNG, a series of publications by the same author or in the same periodical is normally counted as one source. It's also a pretty brief mention, with only one paragraph about it in a much larger paper about a broader topic. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:13, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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HiveColab

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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Imcdc Contact 06:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Abayima

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Fails WP:NORG. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Imcdc Contact 06:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Delete~~Merge with Jon Gosier: Plenty of sources, but no sustained coverage. All the coverage is in the context of their "Open SIM Kit" after they got funding from the Knight News Challenge in January 2013, but it seems like the project fizzled out pretty quickly. Most coverage is from January. The latest source I could find was from August 2013. This source is a trade publication, which should be given less weight due to WP:TRADES. Their GitHub repo was last updated in September 2013. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 08:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GobbleHoof

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Not enough reliable, verifiable, independent sources providing enough information to write a reasonably detailed article on the subject. Rainydaywindows (talk) 06:17, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Meets WP:NBAND bullet 5, having released two albums on New Alliance Records which has an article which shows that they had like 20 blue-linked bands on the label, including Hüsker Dü. I guess that makes them "one of the more important indie labels" which is what WP:NBAND wants. (Info from Discogs.

Also meets WP:GNG which wants two sources that are somewhere north of a passing mention in a single sentence (how far north it doesn't say). Here is bit in Trouser Press which has an article and which even I've heard of, with a full paragraph. Refs indicate that Spin (magazine), famous magazine, is claimed to have some material on the band (Jan 1993 - Page 36 Vol. 8, No. 10)) -- can't tell how much but at least a full sentence, probably more. There is your GNG right there, and to round it out there's a passing mention in The Encyclopedia of Popular Music, and an Italian book ("The Night Elvis Came Out of the Grave"), and another book (" I Found My Friends: The Oral History of Nirvana"). They really just barely pass WP:GNG so it's debatable, but that's just the refs from the article, there might be more out there, and anyway they pass WP:NBAND also. (The article itself is not super great yet but there's enough there to make an acceptable article, couple paragraphs.) Herostratus (talk) 18:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cynthia_Akanga

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I believe Cynthia_Akanga fails the WP:GNG criteria. Person has brief bios on both linkedin and imdb but very little independent coverage. SallyRenee (talk) 05:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of foods that are Swiss by name but not culture

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Incomplete list. Not sure if topic satisfies WP:NLIST, and if such a list is needed. CycloneYoris ^talk! 05:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Added citations but wasn't able to find any articles suggesting that the list category itself is notable (though it's a great idea for a blog post or magazine article). Probably doesn't satisfy WP:NLIST. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:17, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and add to WP:DAFT. Just not a viable list with such a limited scope. Geschichte (talk) 15:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Corina

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No significant coverage in reliable sources. Easily fails WP:MUSICBIO and now a target of a promotional farm. Even this older version I reverted to might fall into the WP:PROMO category. Jalen Barks (Woof) 05:09, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:MUSICBIO) category. Sources provided in the article fail WP:V with some of them being considered generally unreliable (WP:RSP). Articles available online are mostly user generated content that do not meet WP:RS and WP:IS criteria. QEnigma talk 13:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Max Flick

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I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this American soccer player. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 04:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:SPORTCRIT / WP:FOOTYN) criteria. Football statistics websites show ([41]) 3,445 minutes in 71 matches as career figures. USL 1 is the highest division this player has participated in with 3,408 minutes and 67 matches. USL 1 is a division 3 football league (Professional football). No WP:V material available. QEnigma talk 12:28, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was withdrawn‎. charlotte ^👸🎄 21:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mars and Venus in the Bedroom

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~~Not enough coverage. I've attempted to locate coverage for this book, but was only able to find sales of the book and other first-party sources.~~ See withdrawal below — Your local Sink Cat (The Sink). 04:01, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - I just want to point out that this page has had an undisclosed payment tag for a while and was proposed for deletion ten years ago. I won't vote here but I'm just pointing that info out for others. Di (they-them) (talk) 04:06, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, @Di (they-them). I've removed the UPE tag, it's old and any promotional language has been removed. Schazjmd (talk) 15:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. On a quick search I found a review from Kirkus Reviews as well as two academic articles that have this book as their primary subject, which is more than enough to satisfy WP:NBOOK.
- MARS AND VENUS IN THE BEDROOM: A GUIDE TO LASTING ROMANCE AND PASSION. (1995). Kirkus Reviews, (4) Retrieved from https://www.proquest.com/trade-journals/mars-venus-bedroom/docview/917205028/se-2
- Peterson, Valerie. "Mars and Venus: The Rhetoric of Sexual Planetary Alignment." Women and Language, vol. 23, no. 2, fall 2000, p. 1. Gale Literature Resource Center, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A71066172/LitRC?u=anon~f9675820&sid=googleScholar&xid=4703e5e4.
- Potts, A. (1998). The Science/Fiction of Sex: John Gray’s Mars and Venus in the Bedroom. Sexualities, 1(2), 153-173. https://doi.org/10.1177/136346098001002002

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Keep. I've added the best-seller info with refs and the Publishers Weekly review to the article. I found the same Peterson paper as Astaire but haven't digested it into the article yet. Meets WP:NBOOK. Schazjmd (talk) 15:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per sources above, enough to meet NBOOK. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw. As the original nominator, the sources that have been presented above prove that the book meets NBOOK. Thank you for the assistance. — Your local Sink Cat (The Sink). 21:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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K07AAD-D

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Fails WP:GNG; largely unsourced; was part of a previous AFD. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment, for the record, this is the previous AFD. Esolo5002 (talk) 05:03, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp.: it's certainly been a while since the last time one of these run-of-the-mill HC2/Innovate stations came up for (re-)nomination. That this station was part of the failed bulk nomination a few years back would appear to indicate that, despite the history dating to 1980, the requisite significant coverage (much less evidence of running anything other than national services) does not (and likely will never) exist. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 07:22, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All-time Charleston Battery roster

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Subject lacks notability under WP:LISTN due to a lack of sourcing. PROD was removed with the claim that sources exist, however none have been added to the article and I could not find any in a BEFORE, so bringing this to AfD. Let'srun (talk) 03:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: per nom ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 03:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LoyaltyLion

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DELETE — Fails WP notability guidelines for organisations and companies WP:NCORP. The sources cited don't demonstrate significant coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources. Most of the references are either self-published (the company's own website) or fail to offer in-depth analysis, consisting instead of brief mentions or promotional content, such as interviews and mentions in listicles. The tone of the article also leans towards promotional, especially in sections like "Platform Features" and "Partnerships and Integrations" WP:NPOV. There is a lack of information demonstrating the company's impact or actual significance beyond its promotional claims WP:NOTPROMO. Nyxion³⁰³ 💬 Talk 02:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hezbollah Headquarters

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Redirect to Haret Hreik. WP:RS do not identify this as a distinct entity but rather use it as a descriptive term. The cited provide only WP:PASSING mentions of a "Hezbollah headquarters" with their primary focus on information already covered in existing Wikipedia articles. Consolidating this content under Haret Hreik is more appropriate, as the area encompasses the context discussed here. A redirect ensures the information remains accessible without duplicating content unnecessarily. Longhornsg (talk) 02:17, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Advanced Technology Development Center

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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Imcdc Contact 02:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Previous WP:PROD candidate, ineligible for soft deletion.
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Weak keep: I found two independent sources ([42], [43]) and added them to the article, but I'm not sure about reliability and the first one seems pretty promotional. I'd be more confident if someone could find another piece of coverage that isn't connected to the ATDC or Georgia Tech. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

YL Ventures

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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Mostly about routine funding. Some info from Techcrunch but notability is limited per WP:TECHCRUNCH. This was previously deleted per AfD before. Imcdc Contact 01:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of diplomatic relations of Ireland

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This article is pretty much a copy-paste of Foreign relations of Ireland except the list is a bit different as the creator believes that Ireland maintains diplomatic relations with Equatorial Guinea and São Tomé and Príncipe, yet the soucres he used are poorly sourced as they do not indicate anything about establishing diplomatic relations. Also, the history section has no reliable source at all. Underdwarf58 (talk) 01:40, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nom. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 02:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - Foreign relations of Ireland is enough. Orientls (talk) 04:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Delete: Per nom FuzzyMagma (talk) 13:06, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eddy Maday

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Non-notable actor with roles in only one notable film. None of the sources are reliable, and I found none with significant coverage online. I initially BLARed this to Presence (2024 film)#Cast, but it was reverted by the article's creator. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Does not meet WP:BIO/WP:NACTOR. No significant coverage exists in reliable sources; most existing sources mention him as a cast member but there is no independent coverage of the subject himself. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 02:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. All sources I can find are databases or passing mentions in news sources. Fails WP:NACTOR as mentioned above. Jordano^5³ 04:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Living Prime Ministers of India

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A new article not meeting WP:NLIST and unwarranted in the presence of List of prime ministers of India. At heart, it's a two-element list, and the rest is WP:OR. A PROD was contested; I considered a merge, but there doesn't seem to be any unique referenced material to merge. Klbrain (talk) 00:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Anybody wanting this info can just look at List of prime ministers of India#Lifespan of prime ministers. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete duplicates information already avialable at List of prime ministers of India. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 09:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Samsung SPH-i700

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No indication of notability displayed since 2012. In addition, does not cite any sources. Could possibly be merged elsewhere. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 00:49, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This was all I could find [44], looks to be a press release. Nothing for notability, no sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 01:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to List of Pocket PC devices#Samsung - mentioned in that list, I added the press release as a reference. --Mika1h (talk) 10:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~:Also found this CNET review: [45]~~ --Mika1h (talk) 10:37, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nevermind, it was for a different model. SGH not SPH. --Mika1h (talk) 10:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Thompson (businessman)

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During initial discussions of the notability of the subject I favored that this article be kept for the time being, pending the emergence of articles in reliable sources on the subject. Since then there has been quite a lot of coverage in reliable sources and a problem has emerged.

It has become apparent that virtually all the coverage of Thompson in reliable sources is relevant to his murder. The little that is not is trivial in nature (e.g. he was separated from his wife and once was arrested for drunk driving). As a result, the indisputably notable and necessary article on his killing, Killing of Brian Thompson is little more than an expanded version of this article. This article is superfluous, and should be deleted or merged into that article. Coretheapple (talk) 16:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep His activities at UH are sufficient to meet WP:NPERSON. He is not only notable for a single event. PhotographyEdits (talk) 17:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - while the coverage/sources have largely emerged only due to the killing, there are notable events and facts about his life that pre-date late 2024, and I think he meets WP:NPERSON as a result. Need to be careful not to let too much of the content/tone of Killing of Brian Thompson spill into here, tho. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 17:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for these same reasons. AHI-3000 (talk) 19:40, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for similar reasons to others listed. And also, I'm sorry, not to be rude, but are we talking about this again? And already? This is the third discussion I've been a part in the last month or two, or however long it's been, as far as whether to keep this article. Each time, the consensus has been keep. So, that seems to just be the consensus for the time being. I don't know how many times the same discussion is 'allowed' or what have you to be brought up in the same time period, but surely we all can agree that we should be waiting at least a few months if not longer to let things cool down before re-opening this discussion again (if that's even necessary) based on the fact that we are consistently coming to the same conclusion? InquisitiveWikipedian (talk) 18:35, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge there is far too much scrapping on any possible report about Thompson that fails BLP (which still applies). The bulk of the biographical details are routine and do not show any notability. Nearly all the criticism about him is mostly about UHC while he happened to be CEO, which doesn't automatically make him responsible for those choices, nor make him notable. We will avoid a lot of BLP problems by including the criticism of UHC within the killing article are related to the motive of the killing. But otherwise BLP1E clearly is met, and we should not have a standalone of him. Masem (t) 17:40, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- To add the bulk of the sources are after his death. If he was truly notable beyond BLE1E, there would be far more sourcing from before his death, but the only pieces there prevdeath are routine aspects related to his promotions at UHC. This is the type of case that BLP1E as well as BLP CRIME were written to avoid. Masem (t) 18:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - we have articles for CEOs of major companies, including those who aren't particularly notable except for just leading their companies. UHC is a major and controversial company, and Thompson is notable for his leadership before his murder. See WP:NPERSON. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 19:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- There is no explicit notability for CEOs of major corporations. — Masem (t) 00:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would also point out that Thompson was not the CEO of the public entity, United Health Group. He was CEO of the United Healthcare division. Johnadams11 (talk) 17:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect. Thompson largely has the same characterization as Mangione I think, since he is largely WP:BLP1E, but that WP:1E is not trivial, and he played an untrivial role in that event (even unwillingly). I think the same principle applies to Thompson as to Mangione, but the difference, as I see it, is that the coverage around Mangione quickly turned him into a folk hero. Thompson has almost faded into obscurity by comparison: it's been the US healthcare system that's been vilified, not this one person. I think that if Mangione is notable enough for this 1E, Thompson should be, but the deletion discussion for Mangione didn't conclusively litigate that, in my opinion (though I was involved). But if Mangione isn't notable for simply the one event, I don't think Thompson would be notable at all. There simply hasn't been much coverage of this person, as @Coretheapple points out. I hope that was enough explanation to not just be WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS :)guninvalid (talk) 21:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge, as per reasoning of @Coretheapple Sushidude21! (talk) 23:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And @guninvalìd Sushidude21! (talk) 23:45, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Killing of Brian Thompson per nom, as well as the reasonings of Masem and guninvalid. JeffSpaceman (talk) 01:38, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per JohnAdams1800, and since the Mangione article AfD passed as keep, which was a concern of Coretheapple. Cheers! Johnson524 06:33, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Mangione article's AfD did get closed as Keep, but a deletion review was initiated. There is some weak support from the admins to overturn to no-consensus, though I don't believe that's actually going to happen. guninvalid (talk) 09:58, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mangione has received an avalanche of attention in RS sources, so I am not surprised by the result of the AfD. In the past such criminals (Richard Matt comes to mind) get articles, and efforts to delete them on a 1E basis are unsuccessful. I speak from experience on that. Here we have an article on a victim, and I think 1E looms especially large here, as the amount of attention focused on him has been far less than Mangione, resulting in what is essentially a duplicative article. Coretheapple (talk) 16:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the case of Matt, he was a principal character in two film adaptations. Though I advocated for deletion of the article the community was opposed. 1E only is meaningful if it is enforced, and it was not in that instance. In this instance, we need to weigh carefully the purpose served by this article and how it replicates another article. Coretheapple (talk) 16:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Killing of Brian Thompson Let's not make this person a hero over many dead people. 190.219.101.225 (talk) 07:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Having a Wikipedia article does not mean he is a "hero". Iostn (talk) 11:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Killing of Brian Thompson Jotamide (talk) 21:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep it would be pretty questionable in terms of the reputation of this website that the alleged murderer (and his father) has been given a wikipedia article, whilst the victim's one is deleted. I would support all of these articles including the one for Mangione to be merged into a single article however Anvib (talk) 22:21, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Notability stems from coverage of murder. Firecat93 (talk) 01:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Killing of Brian Thompson. Once again, he will always be synonymous with his murder and was not notable beforehand. Everything else pertaining to his life — his separation and DUI arrest — is trivial. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 04:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He has become known not only for his death, but for his role in the U.S. health insurance industry; as CEO of his company, he was the person within the company that bore primary responsibility for carrying out its policies, which were remarkable even by the standards of that industry. — The Anome (talk) 14:33, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- It has not been shown that he was the principle decision maker or the one that directed the company to chose its approval/denial processes. His tenure at UHC was marked by these but as he was only in the CEO position since 2021, it's hard to determine how much influence he actually has or was a continuation of ongoing practices. We have no way yet to be able to attribute that all to him personally. — Masem (t) 15:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Brian Thompson was the CEO of a very successful and large company and his murder was also very notable and unexpected, so I believe that he should have his own article kept because of this. I also agree with @The Anome above, on why the article should be kept. AwesomeAndEpicGamer (talk) 14:31, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep Idek mann (talk) 16:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I started to type out a "merge and redirect" !vote, mainly because I did a search for sources, restricting the dates to before this month, and couldn't find anything substantial. Since we already have an article on the event, merge made sense. However, stepping back for a second, his notability may have increased because of the way he died, but there are nonetheless many sources that are about him specifically now, including high-profile obituaries, and not just the killing. Seems he passes WP:BIO at this point. e.g. NYT, Star Tribune, NYT, Newsweek, WSJ, AP, CNN Business... — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:48, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most of that coverage is rote obit aspects particularly when we compare to how the victims of tragic events that fall into BLP1E are covered similarly by the media in a sympathetic manner (eg like victims of school shootings). None of these point to any he did that was notable before he was killed. If one considers all the factors that are unique to his biography that there is not covered to a degree on the killing page, this is a very generic business person profile that would fail GNG normally. That means we can still give a few paragraphs on his bio on the killing page but shouldn't have a full article that is a honeypot for potential BLP violations. Masem (t) 18:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Masem. KOLANO12 3 19:14, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Kolano123, I don't think you have read the comments here very carefully because Masem is arguing to Merge, not Keep this article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep because of WP:N and WP:V with WP:RS. IZAK (talk) 03:36, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep This deletion request is frankly quite ridiculous. Brian Thompson is not just known for his murder. There are multiple reliable news sources talking about him other than his death. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 06:44, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep Not only is he notable enough to have his own Wikipedia page, separate from the killing, theres also a massive number of sources, also separate from his killing, that talk about him EarthDude (talk) 07:43, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep per Shoot for the Stars and EarthDude 𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 17:08, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep well he is a famous person, with this logic then every dead ceo's page should get deleted Emayeah (talk) 18:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In addition to the sources provided by Rhododendrites, here are some other reliable sources that focus on and discuss his personal life and career, not just his death/the killing:
The Washington Post

The New York Times

BBC

CNN

NPR

ABC News -- Some1 (talk) 22:02, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I apologize in advance for the informality, the man is everywhere. I can't escape him. Every source is yammering about him. —theMainLogan (t•c) 22:20, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You don’t typically put Oppose or Support !votes on AfD discussions - you either Keep, Merge, or Delete !vote - are you opposing the article’s existence, or the deletion of the article? Cheers, atque supra! Fake scientist 8000 19:06, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I meant "Keep". Sorry for the inconvenience. —theMainLogan (t•c) 22:35, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: He is a notable figure outside of this murder and has information about the healthcare system by being a CEO. Rager7 (talk) 00:00, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep If this is notable enough to have an article, then an assassinated CEO should easily clear the bar. -- Sleyece (talk) 04:23, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That argument is very much WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, and we already have an article on his assassination – there is way less sourcing on Brian Thompson separate from his assassination than there is on hawk tuah, as that article's references attests. Notability is about sources, not about subjective importance or seriousness. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 15:04, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess if you're going to press me on policy, my position is more of a cynical Merge into this. -- Sleyece (talk) 23:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep Brian already has some coverage from BBC, CNN, etc. as stated by @Rhododendrites and @Some1. He definitely meets WP:NPERSON. Sangsangaplaz (Talk to me! I'm willing to help) 10:53, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Article looks good and the subject is notable on its own. There's some notable info that has nothing to do with his shooting as well. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 13:35, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep as there is some limited amount of coverage not related to his death. However, being a CEO of a large company is not in itself a notability criterion – we should decide based on coverage in sources, not any subjective measure of fame or importance – and arguments only relying on this should be discounted or at least given lower weight, in my opinion. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 15:01, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Killing of Brian Thompson. He seems like a WP:BLP1E, which is always sad when it's a death. All but one source I saw is from this month; I don't see it demonstrated that he was notable before his killing. Even though there is a lot of coverage on him, even describing his past, it's still due to the assassination. SWinxy (talk) 19:41, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep: Someone pointed out that Hawk tuah has a page, so Brian Thompson should too; and someone else responded saying that argument is invalid because WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. However, I disagree with that logic. Hawk tuah has a page AND Hailey Welch has a page. Therefore, it would seem to make sense that Killing of Brian Thompson and Brian Thompson should have their own pages. Furthermore, this man was the CEO of the 10th largest corporation in the United States by market capitalization. Teddybearearth (talk) 07:25, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This AfD was closed by a non-admin as "keep". Following a DRV appeal, I have re-opened it (as permitted by WP:NACD). Any admin is welcome to close at any time. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:18, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as this AFD was closed prematurely, went to DRV and was reopened. Seems fitting to give it a relisting to give our regular closers time to assess this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:32, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Just because his article didn't exist before the killing doesn't mean he wouldn't have been eligible for one - as the CEO of a major company and the other items in the news about him, I wager he could have had an article prior and it would not have been disputed. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 02:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There are many ways that we can establish the article's notability. KOLANO12 3 09:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: This is clearly not a case of BIO1E/BLP1E. The sources in the article demonstrate notability as the CEO of a major insurance company, well before his murder. Frank Anchor 15:01, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The bulk of the sources about his role including CEO in UHC are all after his death, which is a good sign his role in UHC was not notable. Just because post death sources have covered his career more extensively does not create notability that wasn't there, because this is all trying to justify any reasoning to why he was targeted. All which is far better to discuss in the context of the killing event article and not a bio. Masem (t) 15:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - While the bulk of his sources are dated after his death, the article still includes several GNG-passing sources that are dated prior to December 2024. And even several of the ones that were published after his death include significant coverage of his role as CEO. This means that his death is a contributing factor, and not the sole reason, for his notability. Frank Anchor 19:00, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The pre death sources are not "significant coverage" of his role as CEO for the GNG, they simply announce this promotion. The coverage from Modern Healthcare, a trade magazine for the healthcare industry, edges on falling into not being independent under the type of more stringent sourcing we'd apply for businesses under NORG (as to avoid promotional coverage) . The only other real bit of coverage is his being named in the insider trading lawsuit but per BLP, we'd not use that for notability since he wasn't a public figure. If one can take out all post death sources and consider what had been written about him, he would not meet either the GNG or any NBIO criteria. The only reason we now know so much more about him is the type of coverage that victims of crimes often get, which is one of the reasons we have BLP1E for in the first place, as to not memorialize or glamorize or condemn them because of the obits that suddenly appear. Masem (t) 19:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep High notability and extensive media coverage. Wjfox2005 (talk) 15:32, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: There is enough WP:RS coverage to meet WP:NPERSON. I don't think WP:BLP1E applies here, as the subject very likely would have been considered notable before his death.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep: Never thought I'd see this kind of subject as a Wikipedia article. But there's probably a lot more to come, and Wikipedia should be there. i.e., under Thompson, UHC employees were specifically trained in claims denial, to wear patients down from getting their medical services paid. — Maile (talk) 15:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. CEO of a business with over $200,000,000,000 in revenue. Received coverage such as this prior to his death and was ranked by Modern Healthcare multiple times as one of the most influential people in healthcare [46], [47].

Coverage now of course focuses on the salacious details about him being shot to death on the street and the reactions, instead of the intricacies of some insurance deal he oversaw a decade ago. Our article currently mentions he kept a low profile, so he maybe wouldn't have wanted a Wikipedia page, but that doesn't negate his notability.

There are likely lots of other CEOs and business leaders who are notable and we should have articles about too, but nobody without a COI cares enough to write those articles. NICHOLAS NEEDLEHAM (talk) 16:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: @NICHOLAS NEEDLEHAM: This seems like an argument for creating other articles, rather than a reason for this article to be deleted; we already have a list of CEOs of significant companies, and it's arguable that most, or all of the CEOs of similarly large companies should have articles. — The Anome (talk) 19:18, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Double Fine Comics

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A list of webcomics. The ancient last AfD had one keep vote for lack of rationale. There are two separate articles on minigames, My Game About Me: Olympic Challenge and Tasha's Game. I don't believe the The International House of Mojo is an independent source here. IgelRM (talk) 00:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games and Webcomics. IgelRM (talk) 00:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Last AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Double Fine Action Comics IgelRM (talk) 00:21, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]